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Lowyat.TV: Exclusive Look At Smart Suface

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by Wern Shen

Friday, 03 July 2009 06:09 PM

A couple of weeks ago, the Lowyat.TV crew was fortunate enough to be invited into the labs of a local company called Smart Surface Sdn Bhd. The dynamic duo who run this operation have actually created their own version of a smart computing surface similar to the Microsoft Surface, and we were fortunate enough to be the first IT media in Malaysia to actually catch a glimpse of this device.

For more indepth information on the Smart Surface, please visit the official website at http://smart-surface.com/. You can also get in touch with the Smart Surface team directly via phone at +6017 393 4084.

Comments

Name: aidil Goh

Comment:
of course, multitouch in malaysia is already common thanks to iphone. what's next is developing really elegant and well thought out applications. these days, almost anyone with a good head can build a decent multitouch table/wall. to get it running smoothly is another thing.

Late last year, with the help of NUIgroup, I managed to build a multitouch screen (40inch) using materials readily available from Jalan Pasar, Pudu. Cost was under 500 (without projector). BTW, I'm not a programmer nor am I an engineer/technician.

And for anyone who's built such a thing would know that ambient light from the sun/lamps will interfere with the screen, and is one hurdle to . However there are workarounds on this, found on the NUI group, which is one great community to learn from.

On another note, I hope this blame game has stopped, and has moved on to better things. Yes, I do believe the rule of the game is to give credit where credit is due. And give back to the community where giving back is due.

So there.
Happy Hari Raya!

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Posted: 2009-09-23 20:48:40
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Name: BAT-man	Comment: TO Mr. Paul Stinchcombe. You want us to beleive that BAT paid over MYR 60.000 (that is sixty thousand MYR) for a multitouch table just to use it ONE TIME at a single small exibition and "never intended to be reused" as you claim!!!!!!!!!! (can I add more exclamation marks here). You don't think we re that stupid do you?
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-09-04 14:02:14

Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
@Paul Stinchcombe: The agency involved in getting the table was called Three Infinity. I saw the table myself and it was not working under any sort of light even when calibrated. The software created by dragonsoft would hang if it had multiple blobs at the same time. If you are up for a challenge, I'll be more than glad to upload your software and ours... moreover, I have pics and vids of the table being used by BAT... it clearly shows OUR software in use.And since the subject of "Smart" is in discussion now, how smart are you that you are claiming that we ran a 1:2 aspect ratio software on a 4:3 table....Oh and btw, our table was also at the mercy of their technicians... and they had absolutely no trouble "calibrating" or using it...So plz get your facts right... oh and next time.. try not to use chewing gum to fix your camera...

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Posted: 2009-08-22 16:51:28
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Name: Paul Stinchcombe

Comment:
Faysal, it seems that lying about where you got your software is becoming a habit. The software used at the BAT event was indeed created by Dragonsoft Research (www.dragonsoft.com.my) which can be verified by BAT and their agency G2, both of which had seen everything running prior to the event at out clients office. The reason that you were "begged" to deploy your table was because the clients technicians were not able to calibrate their own unit. As for your claims that the 8ft x 4ft table was "thrown out" by BAT... This table was successfully deployed in Penang, which has been well documented, and was never intended to be reused.
It seems that Smart Surface is not so smart after all.

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Posted: 2009-08-20 12:45:52
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Name: Amir Dastan

Comment:
We have some really ill-informed commentaries on the product. Some of the commentators would rather see this innovation credited to the US or to Singapore, a sure sign of someone weighted down by an inferiority complex. They have a problem handling the fact that this is a Malaysian product.

Some aspects of the product are bound to be open source. Innovations that do not contain some open source elements are rare indeed. The point is the product performs according to what it claims it is capable of doing and its performance is being improved to meet the needs of the targetted market segments.

I saw the prototype at the ITEX and was impressed with the product and particularly its potential applications. The company should promote the product to policy makers in one of the Ministries to deploy the product throughout the Ministries' core departments.

As a Malaysian product, that's the way to go. After all, which innovation can we cite as not having faced initial glitches and question marks about its potential applications. The product is ready to go to market and after tailoring its application to the customers requirements it will soon become another everyday gadget we take for granted.

Good luck to the young enrepreneurs for their innovation.

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Posted: 2009-08-06 14:55:17
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Name: Faysal Abdulaziz	Comment: @Stealer: We're dropping charges... So relax... Just loose the attitude and try to do something better than us. Put ur skills where ur mouth is and lets see if u can come up with something better. I'll give u a list of exhibitions we'll be participating in and u can take a look at our stuff. good luck
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-25 00:34:35

Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
@Lowyat Admin: Plz allow this comment as it bears legal stipulations:

@Stealer: We do not need to "defend" ourselves from anyone. If anyone requires defending, it should be you! Our product speaks for itself. Today, British American Tobacco had used our table for their launching. They initially bought one from a company called Dragonsoft who is a veteran NUI member. Their table and software sucked so much that at the last moment their agent literally begged us to rent out our table and develop a software overnight!

So again, our products speak for itself. Its the only one that works under heavy spot-lights. If you can do anything better then by all means come forward and show. Otherwise rest assured that MOSTI is gonna make all attempts to nab you. Your file is already under review at Jenayah Court #5. I managed to move it from a civil suite to a criminal one.

So good luck. I am not threatening you. I am only giving you a warning as it is my legal obligation.

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Posted: 2009-07-22 21:24:21
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Name: Stealer

Comment:
I was compiling a list of video that nui member used, so that malaysia public can see the similar/or exact interface you use. But since u already admitted you were using their application(with modification), i dun think there is a need to do so.

Please give credits to NUI group. They know what you are doing. And remember what you told them, u gonna feedback your "tracking engine" back to them on september, we all waiting.

And stop threatening me. Solve your problem. You haven't defend your case in nui forum, where there is tons of experts awaiting.

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Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
@Azmir, plz stop lying... when did u c it crash? the only instance that we halted it was when the stupid maxis line was down... and btw, i remember u... u looked into our screen and said.. ".. yeah i see tbeta running.."... for ur information, it wasnt tbeta running..!! we thought our tracker messed up and tested with tbeta with same results.the problem was maxis mobile blocking the ports..!!

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Posted: 2009-07-21 04:57:47
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Name: Azmir	Comment: I was in ITEX and saw the product. It crashed in a few instances and i saw TBETA on the taskbar. They won several awards then but it's not genuine la
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-21 01:16:13

Name: Faysal Abdulaziz	Comment: @gb, we are NOT using open source trackers.. we have developed our own one. As for the apps, we are open to using open source materials and modifying them to our own features. If you can do any better than us, then plz by all means go ahead.... I am yet to see a multitouch surface other than ours or MS's or Harry's that can work under open halogen lights and direct sunlight.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-17 13:46:30

Name: gb	Comment: You people should be ashamed of yourself for claiming an open source project as your own creation.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-17 04:54:52

Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
@stealer, since you mentioned legal action, let us inform you that we are completely legit and NUI cannot take us to court under any circumstance. On the contrary, we are taking legal action against you in association with MOSTI and Cyber Security Malaysia under article 177 and 182 on charges of attempting to tarnish reputation by furnishing false information without adequate proof.

If we go to court, we can easily show our tracking core as well as the source codes and developers. Furthermore, ALL of the developers in Malaysia are hobbyist, meaning that if u take their surface under the sun or even under filament lamps, they will produce false blobs. Our ones worked fine under intense Ir emitting lamps at the exhibition.

Our engine being buggy is still better than NUI's CCV and tbeta. By 'buggy', we mean that it still hasn't passed quality control as our quality control is in Japan. We are testing it under extreme conditions, unlike tbeta which is a hobbyists work.

As for YOU, lets see if YOU can come anywhere close to us in technology. the only people from NUI with any commercial substance is probably Taha and Harry

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Posted: 2009-07-13 12:26:58
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Name: Stealer

Comment:
Well, I use an anonymous nick, for a good reason. It's purely on providing information to you. WIth you denial, I had to bridge this information to the original developers in NUI group. Which they demanding a good reasonable answer now. I felt threaten by revealing my real identity, and there isn't any need for that.
But of cause, if NUI GROUP member really agree and decide to go to a potential lawsuit, i will more than willingly to do so.

Wont argue anymore on the detail or history so.. we gone this far, this is the summary:
1. Check "multitouch malaysia", bunch of result comes out b4 your company.
2. You admit using NUI module for testing, which appear in your interview and PR material in Youtube. But you only admit in the forum after we provide the proof to you.
3. If your core-engine is buggy and only beable to release on september, which engine you using now on your commercial release?
4. We will wait for your good news in September when u release your core engine to NUIGROUP.

B4 then, You're more than welcome to answer the question in NUIGROUP, the group of original developer are waiting.

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Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
@NUI Admin, 1st of all, if Harry isn't associated with NUI, then how is he able to use the logo and the name? Secondly, I have seen Harry's Horizon as well as snowflake, which I must say is quite impressive. Third, I have advised quite a few groups on the development of LLP who were lost due to lack of resource at your group.

@Stealer, get your history sorted out...!! Singapore isnt part of Malaysia anymore! We ARE the first to release a surface computer in Malaysia THAT IS COMMERCIALLY VIABLE. If you dont know what that phrase means, it works under bright lights and ambient noise!!

The objects used for the demo are FREE OPEN SOURCE materials that were built upon by SMART SURFACE.

So plz be clear about your claims and I DARE you to reveal your actual identity. And I promise you that I will let you personally review our tracking core (still some bugs left) which is far superior to tbeta or ccv. We are working on the bugs and will release the core to NUI group within september.

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Posted: 2009-07-09 23:29:19
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Name: Homam Alghorani	Comment: we never claim we own the technology of multi-touch ... i don't know what u r talking about this concept is from 80's
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-09 18:25:44

Name: NUIGroup Admin	Comment: Well First of all @ Faysal Abdulaziz Harry Van der Veen isnt affiliated with NUIGroup and Secondly Since i'm part of the admin group i know all the core developers of the community and your claim to have given back to the more to the community is a complete lie.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-09 04:13:04

Name: Stealer

Comment:
Good that he is a genius, also if Smart surface is the first in Malaysia who own this technology. In fact, I saw this setup last year in Singapore, and I double confirm with my friend who did the setup, the demo was downloadable from NUI. And it's their member(NUI) effort. I am just standing out to remind everyone the ownership of the technology. And I am happy if you guys releasing an SDK to NUIGROUP.I have open a thread in NUIGROUP, and let their member share their opinion on your technology and also your "demo"(which I saw a year ago)Good luck. http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/6321/

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Posted: 2009-07-08 21:44:48
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Name: OC

Comment:
Well I know Faisal he was 2 semesters senior then me.This person is truly a genius and I am sure that this product is developed by both of them from scratch.Smart Surface is an excellent product and it should be in best interest for Malaysians as it is better than Microsoft Surface computing which is still not yet launched in Malaysia.It is good to hear that u guys are launching the SDK as well.Keep it up guyz.

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Posted: 2009-07-08 18:51:59
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Name: Ron	Comment: Nice.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-08 12:28:21

Name: Homam Alghorani

Comment:
"Stealer" i just want to tell u that Smart Surface is developing there own tracking system and will be released on nuigroup.com and SmartSurface website for free.
More than that Smart Surface will release there own SDK for developing multi-touch applications.
Please don't talk about something you don't know or you do not understand do more research and don't hide behind nickname and be brave enough to write your real name.
Executive Director,
Homam Alghorani

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Posted: 2009-07-07 21:54:08
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Name: Faysal Abdulaziz

Comment:
my my... 'Stealer'... ur futile efforts to undermine our technology will only result in vain... 'The Group' is a resource for hobbyists... They are no one to judge us. what we have is from us in its entirety. I have contributed more to the group than most members.. so please kindly put a sock in it..!! if you wanna take things a notch further, i'll give Harry van der Veen (CEO of NUI) a call and we can perhaps compare notes on technology... not that ur puny lil mind can grasp any of it... hilarious..!!

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Posted: 2009-07-07 20:38:07
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Name: Medo_Almorisi	Comment: Malaysia Boleh. it is really Amazing. i have seen this smart surface in the exhibition in ITEX, the two guys got award for the best invention. The guys got talent and their work is original which must be appreciated. To those who commented as poor, Developing this technology, they are not just doing business, they are representing our country to the world.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-07 18:07:14

Name: Stealer	Comment: Ok. Say what you need. I was just posting a reminder to you. I can even post this and all your demos to the group for them to judge. Pretty sure your core engine is from them. http://www.nuigroup.com/
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-07 17:34:19

Name: Max	Comment: every successful one will face jealous people so never mind smart surface
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-07 13:11:33

Name: Faysal Abdulaziz	Comment: Yo 'Stealer', I'm the Managing Director of Smart Surface Sdn. Bhd. WE ARE THE FIRST AND ONLY COMPANY IN ASIA WHO HAS DEVELOPED THEIR OWN TRACKING SOFTWARE THAT SUPPORTS FOUR CAMS!! So get your facts right before posting baseless opinions!! Just because YOU are a 'Stealer' doesnt make everyone else one too!
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-07 13:06:41

Name: Max	Comment: i like it
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-06 21:10:03

Name: Alex Tan	Comment: Wow, cool!
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-06 17:20:02

Name: Stealer	Comment: What a shame. Pleae give credit to the developer of the engine, it's definitely not develop by you guys "Smart Surface Sdn Bhd". Smart Surface has developed the platform themselves. Check out their website or better still, give them a call, and I'm sure they'll fill you in on whatever details you're looking for
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-06 16:50:09

Name: wfong	Comment: It's a very innovative product that is practically available in our market!(Microsoft has yet to announce the availability to Asia Pacific) Imagine how it will change the way we communicate with machines, bringing many more smart applications that will understand human gesture and make our life easier.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-06 15:34:02

Name: Homam

Comment:
Hello All,
My name is Homam and I am the Executive Director of Smart Surface Sdn Bhd.
Our SmartSurface has no relation with the Microsoft surface. We use a completely different system. Even some of our products will be running on Linux. Also, our table is like a dinning table, but Microsoft's one is just a coffee table and in our company we provide customized surfaces. Furthermore, our surface come in a variety of shapes, sizes and orientation.

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Posted: 2009-07-06 13:05:22
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Name: Sakinah	Comment: At least he can speak english better that you can. 'La' is not an english word and your sentence lacks structure. Try to appreciate the fact that they have put Malaysia at technological world market... D-h-h-h-h-h...!!
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-05 21:08:18

Name: Sakinah	Comment: At least his english is better than yours "lah" (which btw is NOT english!!). Furthermore, primitive mindset like yours is what is impeding our nation's technological prosperity potential "lah" duh-h-h-h...!!!
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-05 19:46:55

Name: westwoon	Comment: I wonder this system is powered by Microsoft Surface? Microsoft surface is initial release in year 2008 references: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Surface
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-05 16:03:03

Name: Google	Comment: No big deal. I still prefer ma mouse and keyboard.BTW, guy in the video has problem with his throat is it? keep on doing that "ehem" thing. It's very irritating la.
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-04 12:58:53

Name: Sandy	Comment: Amazing.. Malaysia Boleh.. I saw these guys in the exhibition in ITEX i think .. they are very smart n handsome...
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-04 12:44:54

Name: Tony	Comment: Woow Very good Er.. Doesn't microsoft have a patent on this...? No microsoft does not and not only microsoft producing this also there is company from Europe producing same technology
Rated Article: Posted: 2009-07-04 12:39:31