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Broadband throttling: The Star takes notice
(81 votes)
by Andrew Kok   
Thursday, 08 February 2007 10:26 PM

ImageA. Asohan,  a well-known veteran technology journalist in Malaysia, has taken notice of the quagmire that Malaysia's broadband industry seems to be sinking deeper into in recent months. Taking aim at the barely-acknowledged practice of bandwidth throttling adopted by our local Internet Service Providers, A. Asohan has written an excellent opinion piece in The Star that makes for a damning indictment on the current state of broadband in Malaysia. On bandwidth limiting, A. Asohan says:

Maxis did it first when it rolled out its wireless broadband service last year. Under the “Terms and Conditions” of usage, it had this little gem: “Maxis may, at its sole discretion, automatically disconnect the customer’s Internet session after a period of inactivity, which may vary from 20 minutes to 30 minutes.” 

And if that’s not all, here’s the clincher: “Each customer’s total usage per month shall NOT exceed 3GB of data volume transmitted ...” 

Now rumours have been flying that the country’s No 1 Internet service provider (ISP) TM Net is proposing to do something similar with its Streamyx broadband service.

It doesn't take a maths genius to figure out that a 100 megabytes per day is not sufficient in today's Internet landscape of Skype, Youtube, podcasting and video blogging. Diggnation, a popular video podcast for the social news website digg.com, weighs in at an average of 300 mb per weekly episode. If you were a Maxis wireless broadband subscriber, viewing such content would be out of the question for you, leaving you in an 1990's time bubble of plain HTML web-surfing, e-mail and instant messaging. And don't even think of turning on that webcam!

There's more:

Terms such as “traffic shaping” and others are being bandied about. This is what ISPs in other countries are doing after they found out their services had been over-subscribed. But at least those foreign ISPs had to admit their infrastructure was not up to par.  

Malaysian ISPs, on the other hand, are complaining about the slow adoption rate, and have conducted multi-million ringgit-marketing campaigns to boost subscription. 

So despite these complaints, demand is far outstripping supply, even if the ISPs don’t want to admit it. It’s logical, isn’t it? If your network is being under-utilised, why would you need to restrict access? Duh!

Packet-shaping on Streamyx is now an open secret, having been implemented on a wide scale in mid-September 2006 to keep TMNet's bandwidth utilisation under control. The above quote from A. Asohan's editorial aptly contrasts the two contradictory messages that we frequently hear from our local ISPs; that Malaysia's broadband adoption rate is slow thus making it an unprofitable venture, and at the same time bandwidth throttling is being implemented to limit demand of a supplied service that was promised in the T&C form that the consumer signed. 

Read: Throttling broadband access for all

Comments

Name: kelvin Comment:
well,i pay 88 for 1.5Mbps package. i suppose to be able and legal to fully utilize 1.5Mbps because i already pay for it. i m utilize the bandwidth for p2p, online video, online game, surfing, chatting and whatever shit. We're only utilize the bandwidth we pay for and "most of the time" or "all of the time" we dont even get the bandwidth that we pay for. What "ISP" still complaining about the bandwidth we use?

Please forgive my poor English.
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Posted: 2007-03-18 02:18:19
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Name: Puppet - M@ster - Ju@n Comment:
I found out that a lot of people, while paying 66 ringgit (512Kb package), they are enjoying the speed of (1Mb package). Simple test can be done via the speedometer page.

Then why are tmnet actively (last year) promoting the 77 ringgit package(will revert to normal 88 ringgit after 2 years)???

Why charging people the extra fees?
Do we need to point out this matter to our BEST ISP???

88 - 66 = 22 (a nice hair cut / some dvdr???)
22 X 12 = 264 (WoW...a SATA perhaps?)
264 X 2 = 528 (WoW...a genuine Windows perhaps?)
528 X (so many users) = no wonder STEAM STEAM X are rich and we are poor...

Fair or not fair...can anyone tell me?
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Posted: 2007-02-15 03:00:14
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Name: Anti TMNUT Comment:
paying phone line rental RM26 permonth just to use streamyx...... having 1.5mb lines.... opening only world of warcraft.. what i mean is totally pure online game without surfing nor downloading anything .... latency = RED which is never lesser than 1k/ms.... thumbsdown
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Posted: 2007-02-14 12:00:22
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Name: Anonymous Comment:
Lucky I am still usinging dialup access..
God Bless....
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Posted: 2007-02-14 11:08:00
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Name: Cheated Comment:
separate packages = more lies and deceit

Just some other way to squish more money out of consumer.
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Posted: 2007-02-13 18:04:12
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Name: Frozzbyte Comment:
I'm writing this as an addition to anti rewlie comments. Rewlie's not just UPSTART/ARROGANT, he's also ECCENTRIC and EGOISTIC fool.From the comment that rewlie made shows that he/she works for TM thus defending what ever TMNet is doing.

At first I was just a reader/observer until I read rewlies comment that compel me to write this.His(I assume rewlie is a HE)first statment touched on UNLIMITED access where he said the TERM UNLIMITED means "you can online as long as you want, download as many as you can, with the speed assigned to you". Then your unlimited term does not apply where we can't online as long as we can because of the frequent disconnection.It happens to me when I needed to be online most and I can't connect for a week. I've been calling the help line and all I get is "The FAULTS on your side".I think thats one of TM strategies to ward off user from calling them by giving all the rubbish answer so we'll be tired of calling them."Download as many as you can, with the speed assigned to you", how can we download as much as we can when you assigned a speed lower then we subscibed then blame it on BEST EFFORT.Subscribing 1M but get speed less than 512k, what kind of BEST EFFORT is that ... seems like no effort at all.Now you're shapping/throtling the traffic.When we do download as much as we can, you blame us for using to much bandwidth.What the heck is this!!

You are right saying we don't own your network but we subscribe the service to use your network and we paid for it. As a paid customer we deserve to get a better service.You said that you need to 'Jaga Hati' all your big voip company, then who's gonna 'Jaga Hati' your not so big comsumer? Rather spending millions on events and publicity, why don't use the money to upgrade the facility.Then maybe that way you 'Jaga Hati' both parties.

I do download linux distros thru bittorrent everyday because streamyx speed so slow that I can't finish it in a day.It takes weeks just to download the ISO.Thats not a waste of bandwidth but time.Your data transfer log shows 90% downloading porn and dvdrip. That also include TM staff downloading those things right? Or you NEVER EVER download illegal stuff in the net? Then we can nominate you for saint hood for being so CLEAN.It would be a shame to TM if gov throw your staff and other people in jail.

What drive me over the edge with rewlie is his statement saying malaysians are illiterate(or stupid) when saying about SNR margin,traceroute and other technical stuff. It's not like they teach us all this in school .. DUH.You can say that because it seems like you work in that field and have knowledge about it. Atleast don't ridicule people, teach them about it. We're not stupid, we can google things we don't know(provided the connection is up) like SNR margin. Thats Signal to Noise Ratio margin that talks about quality of the signal.It does not take a genius to google it.I don't play online games but i know how traceroute works but does a teenage kids with no IT background knows how to traceroute? Use your brain man ... not all people know what you know and you also don't know everything.Thats the beauty of sharing information.

You said overseas ISP start with the traffic shaping and its wise that TM follow suit. What if overseas ISP start to give free broadband ... would TM follow?Even if TM give in to other player, TM would just find a way in the loophole to strangle them to death i.e high lease rate. Thats because you control the connection to the outside world.

I think that all from me ... sorry guys for the long comment. I just need to get it out of my chest after reading rewlie comment.Better ISP from mars rather ISP from hell(TMNet).Who knows there might be an ISP from mars thats more intelligent than the one behind TMNet.laughing-smiley

rewlie = clown + thumbsdown (makes us laugh)
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Name: Melvyn Comment:
Yes i'm annoyed,

And governments are playing the "monopoly" game by only allowing TMNUT to provide the service.

But once a really good option arise, i will change my service in a blink of an eye.
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Name: reddevil Comment:
TMNet is using the Cisco Service Control Engine. It can be use to manage bandwidth that causes revenue leakages such as VoIP like Skype as well as bandwidth hogging stuffs like p2p apps. Bandwidth is expensive, so they have to resort to this type of measures. The Cisco SCE cost them about 20mil to implement which is still lower than bandwidth cost. Thing is, expect TM and other ISP to introduce separate cost for video, voice and p2p apps in the future. So you will have the normal users who uses broadband for their normal surfin' and power users who will pay more to enjoy faster bandwidth for specific purposes like gaming, VoIP, p2p and etc
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Posted: 2007-02-12 22:53:30
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Name: Viking Comment:
Everybody !!
No need to shout...
Cos Tmnet is not gonna do anything even though they know the forum is talking about them.
The best way is..... bring the TM CEO out & talk to us !! Explaint WTH is going on behind our back !!
Tmnet is just not gonna do shxt !!!
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Posted: 2007-02-12 13:48:36
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Name: aaron Comment:
streamxmy? i foreseen more competitor wan to share the cut in future since tm so lc now. streamyx is digging their own graveyard now... die just matter of time.. let wait n c. i wish streamyx user reali know wat services they received after paying so such...
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Name: Concerned Malaysian Comment:
They do not think to improve further but yet had been satisfied to what we have right now..... That's what after Dr. M's era I can said. Everything went wrongly. Vision 2020...... I kow tow my head if that can be achieved, when the most basic infrastructure also not yet ready, not to say others.

Again, ISP in Malaysia are kinda being monopoly. Jaring still uses Telekom line. I'm online hardcode gamer, and again if what Asohan says is correct, then we are really in a bad bad situation, not just that we are not competing with other developing countries but we are still lagging far far behind.

Singapore users has 4Mbps for home users, Australia double the amount and yet they pay the same price as we are for 1Mbps. And you think this is "REASONABLE FAIR" as what "rewlie" had commented.... I don't believe so.....

We want improvement and not standing still at the same place or even walking backward now............sad-smileysad-smileysad-smileyblue-smileyblue-smiley
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Posted: 2007-02-12 10:12:35
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Name: The Symbol Comment:
Dun rant and dun get angry. The dlls in system32 folder and also the domain name of those companies that make bandwidth throttling devices or softwares are proprietry and unique to that company. For dlls in system32, they need to register with microsoft. for unique ID in their code like the GUID, they need to trademark it.
They cannot simply change. So for you folks out there who are developing SDK for opensource, simply ask your installer to detect those companies' trademarks, dlls and also their domain name and if found a black listed company, the installer will not install. That would force these companies to resort to a more expensive PAID version of SDK for the same purpose. Well the more they pay to develop their products, the expensive they will get. And even when the paid SDK providers starts to ban these companies, they would probably need to develop the SDK in house. Because Microsoft did stress to companies to open up their internet access to employees.
So in the end may one bandwidth throttling equipment cost 100k and it becomes cheaper to add more bandwidth than to restrict them. So if I am the ISP which option would I choose ? Restrict or permit ? The SDKs I am talking includes those to develop the companies' websites, databases and so on. Imagine MySQL, PHP will not install into the domain that has been black listed. Next alternative is to buy a paid version like oracle or SQL which is way way ,more expensive. No need to rant, just put that banning feature into the code you develop for open source.
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Name: Noor Hidayat Comment:
@rewlie

Well, regarding @3, those who KNOWS, know that TM Net sucks. Besides, game like World of Warcraft shows right to us the latency and most of the time, you're red.
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Posted: 2007-02-12 09:14:38
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Name: Bond Comment:
The key thing is not ranting about ISP's policy to throttle bandwidth. The key thing is to take away the ability of the ISPs to throttle bandwidth. Few years back universities in the US uses a lot of hardware limiters that attaches to the network ports to limit the bandwidth. But nowadays a software based limiter is prefered like the one in this page

http://softperfect.com/products/bandwidth/

I am not sure what the ISPs are using. Anyway if you wish to stop this is quite simple if all the open source community come together.

Ussually the company that sells these equipments to ISPs will have trademarks embeded inside their firmware or unique string used by their company's domain where their developers are developing the software to be used within their products. Like for example ABC company would have their domain name as www.abc.com or in the products they have this trademark embeded into the machine as ABCPR or something like that.

What the open source community can do is to identify these trademarks, domain name or any unique identification of those companies that develops these products and BAN them from their SDKs. Hence if a programmer from ABC company wants to install this JAVA kit to develop a web based interface. When he installs the SDK, the installer will automatically detect his domain and also other strings that would identify a company developing these products. If found then it will exit with a message.
Normally these companies cannot simply change their domain name. For trademarks it will be difficult process because of many regulatory bodies involved.
And also the dlls that reside in your system32 needs to be registered with Microsoft. Because if two vendors write different software but have the same dll name will overwrite each other. Hence a good place to start is to detect certain dll names that is proprietry to the company that develops these products and BAN them from your SAVE function.

If their developer run into trouble using free stuffs to develop, then they will need to source for other paid services. This willn increase their cost for development and also that cost will translate to the price of their products making it MORE EXPENSIVE for ISPs to buy these products. This not only applies to the SDKs to develop the product itself but also to the company's webpage, database systems and etc. Say MySQL. If the developer decide to put company ABC in the ban list, then that company will need to PAY for either oracle or SQL Server which is not cheap.
SO folks, hope this helps. No need to scold people or rant around. Next time, just add the company into a checklist and BAN them from your free source development kit.
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Name: Anti rewlie Comment:
I m writing this to the UPSTART/ARROGANT rewlie. First thing is People like U are the ones causing ppl like me & the rest to suffer, U IDIOT!

Answer to his No.1 statement

Again! Putting the blame on subscribers! Shame on U. Its your problem NOT us. Subscribing to your package = subscribing to your Network. Dont tell us that your network is owned by some1 else ie Jaring, SingTel? U DUMB or What?
The speed assigned to us which is equal 0 to 15 kB/s on 1MB line? Wake up and do your #@$# research...Again ..u use 1 instead of 2. Two 1(s) = 2 = nice calculation. I wonder where u get your education from?

(1) Your ONE again. I will change my subcription when PenangFON gets it approval in my area. There, satisfied?

2. Go ahead and scan the log. I dare u. I think we will have "Datuks" and "Vips" in there too. Go ahead and lock them up if u dare OR brave enough. Ever heard of VPN(s),anonymous/ghost surfing and encryptions?

3. I do play Online Games. The connections still sux. What the use of logging reports when we get automated e-mail replies? Calling Malaysians illiterate? U can't even do your own numbering right in the first place. Using 1 & 1 before 2

4. I already asked the other ISP(s) and they dont throttle P2P. There's your answer. I guess TMNET also has too many LAZY staff to really do anything BUT to blame it on customers.

My final thought on what TMNUT is good for.

a. Monopoly - Everyones knows this
b. Arrogant/Selfish- Dont bother about customers pleas/suffering
c. Lazy - They dont do their history research
d. Irresponsible- Putting the blame on customers
e. Lying- Telling lies about their adverts. Overpromise & Underdelive
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Name: churekie Comment:
we need more isp providers~! especially for adsl provider~
with greater service
or else tm thinks they rule the world
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Name: zaharibb Comment:
Its high time to have more than one ISPs. When TMNut is controlling the market consumers have to eat what is fed. Jaring on the other hand can't live up to expectation when the rental rate is high. Wait for Maxis wireless Broadband, hope no bandwith throttling.
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Name: sotplug Comment:
What about freelance programmers/designers that relies on Internet to make a living...

And don't tell me about corporate line. They charge you a hand for setup, and a leg each month for subscription. And they guarantee you a 20bps line.

I've got a new vision for Malaysia - Vision 2200

That is if Malaysia is still here...
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Name: annoyed Comment:
why dont you fix the normal connection before you even trottle p2p. i cant even get a decent online video stream properly with such a useless connection.http downloads are terrible....
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Name: Adrian Comment:
"unlimited access"
"u can download ur favorites mp3"
that all crap.
i really hope got other more isp than STREAMYX.
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Name: pirataloco Comment:
Where's the consumer association when we need it?
shame shame shame
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Name: seraphangel Comment:
what are they thinking? here they are trying to get people to sign up for broadband services and they're talking about restrictions already? if this should roll out I'd imagine the massive disinterest in TM Net Streamyx. Imagine a promoter telling "sign up for streamyx, you'll get 'unlimited' access of up to 3GB per month that will 'always' be on provided you still have the bandwidth to spare."

Kill the infant before it's even grown i'd say, great ideas there TM. Malaysia Boleh!
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Name: haazn Comment:
contradictory? Well it's as simple as this.. they want more people to subscribe(hence to increase adoption rate) thus earning more subs fee.. not less people using MORE bandwidth
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Name: chuchow Comment:
thumbsup -> A. Asohan
thumbsdownthumbsdownthumbsdown -> TMNuts!!

As we can see that TMnut is showing customer's Monthly Usage at our monthly bill.They are implementing new thing to "tracks" customer's usage and kind of warning you: " hey man! your total usage for this month is xxxGB"i was like WTF MAN ?? i paid you FULL amount for each month and i am agree/understand that u will provides me A ~1024Kbps downstream BUT NOW !!! u give me a tortoise speed to surf net ?and give me with a shit reason tell me that the customers are fully utilized the line !? TMNUT JUST implemented solutions to blocks users speed, never try to improve Quality of service and products.how about i give u facts and reasons.. i am not satisfied with ur services and i am gonna pay u half only!?





COME ON TMNUT!! IF you are not able to HANDLE IT! PLEASE GET OUT THE WAY. LET JARING MAKE IT !








MALAYSIAN FEEL SHAME, BECAUSE YOUR EXIST!
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Name: rewlie Comment:
I will reply to this posting unofficially, what you guys dont know inside all this, dont ask who am i, i will not reply.

1. We shape the bandwidth on P2P only usage so the network can become stable, the terms UNLIMITED is you can online as long as you want, download as many as you can, with the speed assigned to you, you subscribe to the package, not to our network, you dont own our network, so we have the responsibility to keep the network stable, big voip company that invest in multi-million business starts complaining, due to the unstable data transfer thru our backbone, fair and square, we save you all by keeping the speed on control, rather than unstable network.

1. We dont give you limitation on 3GB data per month, so if you dare to change, dont just say it, go then.

2. How many of you downloading linux distros everyday?? We have all the data transfer log, 90% of it is porn and dvddrip, let say if our gov implement rules like singapore where we can throw you in jail for downloading illegal things, and we open up the log, tell me how many of you will go to court for downloading illegal things?? You guys always mention wahh singapore much more faster la, but what is the purpose of high speed if you might get caught downloading things??
things were more tougher in singapore, they scan the log per line.

3. We dont shape the traffic for other things than P2P, please take note, how many of you playing online games know how to traceroute your connection to your game server and check their latency?? if your latency at the unacceptable level, you can just log a report, but most of you, even spyware sucks all the bandwidth inside your pc you also dont know, then how come?? most of malaysian are illiterate, frankly speak, how many of you know what is SNR margin?

4. You guys keep saying that we monopoly the market, can do anything, for tmnet sake, let say we allow other players to come in, and you do the same thing, dont you think they will take the same action to keep their network under control?? overseas isp is the one that starts implement the traffic shaping, then who you actually expect to come in and be the next player?? isp from mars??

bigsmile-smiley
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Name: vistasux Comment:
in the first place, it is not the ISP's responsibility to curb piracy. so if they're throttling speeds, for that reason, it's absurd. secondly, throttling, or shaping is common in some other countries where P2P usage is high. this is to be fair so that the downloaders don't clog the network. but relatively in malaysia, i just don't see how that can be a problem where just about 10% of the population has been penetrated by broadband. so if they're having this sort of problems when that little of the population are signed up, what goes for the future? and why are they still setting up sign-up booths in shopping malls and everywhere else??

"Come come sign up for our congested network! dont worry we're throttling so you can use your broadband internet even though it will be very slow!!"
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Name: tmnut Comment:
Is there anyway to hurt/force them to undo this throttling. Its normal actually. I know the technician in my area saying that if there are 100 ports available they will use all 100 and no machine available for backup if the line goes down. Maybe everyone should use that signature at the forums.
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Posted: 2007-02-09 20:59:59
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Name: cky80 Comment:
Yes i believe someone needs to champion the user's and the people's cause/rights. WE NEED JUSTICE!GOD BLESS A.ASOHAN AND DAMN TMNET THE USELESS SERVICE PROVIDER THAT IS CHEATING ITS OWN USER BASE.If there is a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT that bring TMNET TO COURT, i strongly will support this with all my heart with family and friends. GLC companies like this need to be thought a lesson. MISLEADING THE PUBLIC WITH CHEATING MARKETING STRATEGY DESERVES A GOOD LAWSUIT to bring them to justice. TM NET needs to be brought crashing to the ground, in fire and brimstone. fedup with lousy service. fedup with lousy & lazy attitude.MALAYSIA BOLEH! thumbsdownthumbsdown
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Posted: 2007-02-09 18:22:14
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Name: MalaysiaBoleh Comment:
Well said, Cliff. Malaysia always try to move backward. If they gonna implement limit thingy, there is no reason to own a streamyx broadband. Better call it Streamyx Narrowaband or Streamyx Limitband.
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Posted: 2007-02-09 16:51:39
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Name: laiking Comment:
thumbsupwhat a "brilliant" act from our local ISP.im a hardcore online player too,seem like in future there's no more online game lol.sometimes they just think of their own profit and didnt see the whole thing,they sold over what they capable to give,and yet they limit us for the service,and told us "unlimited access"...what a funny word.

i also have 2 words for the "Fxck Off"
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Posted: 2007-02-09 16:19:14
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Name: Disappointed Comment:
Its something we hear over and over again and to tell u the truth, it's a bit disheartening. We get fed with what eva cow-turd we get from the govenment or government-linked organizations. Proton, unjust Toll fare price hike, now this shit. It's more than anyone can bear...you'd wonder if they even have a clue...probably not...push it all to the Rakyat...gullible wat.
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Posted: 2007-02-09 16:06:21
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Name: Tm? Nowaday is TAK MAU Comment:
Its clear that even we got 1Gbps also useless. How is that going to happened? Getting 24/7, but infact 4 days finish bandwidth and sit down there wait for another f***ing month to get another bandwidth usage. Broadband penetration 50%? Its dreaming coz now 20% already finish bandwidth. The point is they dont want to add bandwidth, just leeching our money while cutting out our usage.
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Posted: 2007-02-09 15:05:18
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Name: Zack Comment:
After all this years, tmnet still cant provide 2mb connection nationwide.. wtf!! then throttle some more.. vision 2020 my a$$!!thumbsdownthumbsdown
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Posted: 2007-02-09 14:43:30
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Name: nskoon83 Comment:
This is ridiculous. Limited the bandwith useable is as same as forcing us back to the dial up era. How can they aim to gone backward & not to improve?! One word to describe such implementation => "STUPID" !!!
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Posted: 2007-02-09 14:17:21
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Name: Tmnut Comment:
Everyone takes for granted..."its malaysia lar..normal" sometimes i wonder..if all malaysians stop using broadband, and rebel against StreamyX..its a BIG IF....but that shows how bad we want our internet speed not limited
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Posted: 2007-02-09 13:47:05
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Name: unknown20022 Comment:
Actually this is very simple. if you unhappy the service, change to other. If is the only ISP, then downgrade it. what for we pay so much get a such poor services. Hey, "MALAYSIA NOTHING BOLEH, CAKAP BOLEH" bigsmile-smiley
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Posted: 2007-02-09 13:46:47
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Name: streamyxASS Comment:
hey guys.. how about jaring broadband? we should fine alternative by now.. 'always harap' streamyx is not good la!
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Posted: 2007-02-09 13:33:34
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Name: Harris Comment:
While overselling may be common in isp standards , TM is certainly taking things a bit too far. All this talk about broadband yet mentality stuck in 56kb era. With the advent of IPTV , video communications etc , what will our ISP's be?

Throttle communications? So much for the future.

Makes me wanna throw up whenever i see the advert "breaking the speedometre" by TM
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Posted: 2007-02-09 12:27:29
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Name: cywai Comment:
These are one of the consequences that all Malaysia consumers have to suffer due to monopoly business. happy-smileyThey think we are stupid or perhaps they know we have no choice in malaysia.I think if they want to limit the download data as what maxis did, they should also allow us to carry forward the unused data to next month of which similar to mobile phone prepaid plan.Now what we are paying is monthly “UNLIMITED” plans. Shaping is definitely unfair to us. Imagine you want to download xx GB data per month, if normal 1mbps plan without throttling, may be within one month you can finish download all datas you need. But due to throttling, you may need 2 months to complete and end up TM is forcing us to pay more on monthly subscription fees and we are also wasting additional time, electricity bill, etc. They should not quote their plan as 1mbps or 512kbps. If cannot provide us the bandwidth, just switch back to 384 kpbs or even lower 128kpbs. With this kind of infrastructure, can we still achieve vision 2020? happy-smiley
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Posted: 2007-02-09 12:12:01
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Name: Do freaking streamyx even CARE? Comment:
If they start doing that I'm cutting my line immediately!
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Posted: 2007-02-09 11:40:23
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Name: SonicWave Comment:
That's the problem with the mindset of Malaysian especially the leaders now. Always putting the wrong focus at an issue by pointing finger instead of solving it. Wat to do ? Malaysia macam Boleh ! Malaysian are trained to forgive and forget easily.

Btw, I came to know that Dubai has implemented its eGovernment within a year time. What about Malaysia ? You tell me. Haha thumbsdown
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Name: Lia Comment:
Typical.. This is how they always do things lah.. half past six and post teh tarik apathy..

"jaguh kampung" mentality? or the "we are still better than ghana" thinking?
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Name: TMcumaxis Comment:
Those ISP seem like very narrow minded...WTF!
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Posted: 2007-02-09 08:34:37
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Name: messedup Comment:
why maxis implemented that trottling on the first place ....see that tmnut just following his footstep...that the problem when big company start implement stupid technology later the company also will follow them
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Posted: 2007-02-09 02:22:52
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Name: znsennox Comment:
indeed nice points,
if you cant offer that much stop SELLING that u can!!

i think is alright to limit total bandwidth but must be a reasonable capacity say, to avoid ppl. miss use internet (u know what i mean)

for now unlimited access sound like SCAM since traffic shaping is applied. where the unlimited come from if u controlling my traffic !!
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Posted: 2007-02-09 01:44:09
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Name: dummy Comment:
I'm kind of a hardcore online gamer and I play online game almost everyday and I checked my streamyx bill and my monthly bandwidth usage was 50gb~ Dunno how I'm going to play online game if streamyx will be doing this sad-smiley
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Posted: 2007-02-09 01:38:15
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Name: Cliff Comment:
It was definately ridiculous. Come on, we pay for the services, okie, it said unlimited usage with a fixed monthly charges. But, if they limit our usage, must not I fall back into the traditional old dial-up one because I paid what I used, which in the other hand for the broadband, you still pay the fixed as soon as you reach the limit.

WTF of this? Please do not implement such rules in it because it will definately killing off the industry. Come on, you said you wan us to equip ourselves with knowledge, so, the easiest way to get the latest news was world wide web, yet you limited us.

How can Malaysia develop if this kind of things come out? You wan educated people but you gonna implement stupid rules.
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Posted: 2007-02-08 23:47:31
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Name: dummy Comment:
Ayya.. tmnet assumes that all torrent downloader downloads illegal stuff.. linux distros download via torrent nowadays are getting popular as more people is interested on open source software..
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Posted: 2007-02-08 23:34:59
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